I was just listening to Michael Pollan on the Everyday Foods show on Martha Stewart’s channel on Sirius radio.
I am really loving his book The Omnivore’s Dilemma so I was excited to hear him on the radio.
However, I completely disagreed with him!
A woman called in and asked about feeding whole milk to children and what about obesity.
He said soda is the main cause of obesity.
I agree with that, because soda contains high fructose corn syrup.
However, it is not only soda that causes obesity in children. A lot of moms are feeding their children fruit juice and white bread products and crackers. Fruit juice is often loaded with high fructose corn syrup and/or sugar. And refined flour products and sugar also cause obesity.
He also said that giving children whole milk is preferable to giving them soda.
OK, yes, agreed. (Whole milk is also preferable to fruit juice, particularly fruit juice with added sugar and/or HFCS.)
Then he said that most milk has growth hormones in it so it is not safe to drink.
Agreed.
The caller asked, “Even organic?”
He said, “Yes. Even organic.”
I agree with that. Just because it’s organic doesn’t mean it’s healthy.
However, he didn’t talk about grain-fed vs. grass fed.
Most milk comes from grain-fed cows (even the organic milk) and is not safe to drink because those cows are not healthy — because eating such an unnatural diet makes them sick. I’m not sure why he didn’t mention this fact because he writes about it at length in The Omnivore’s Dilemma.
And why didn’t he mention the dairies out there that are producing HEALTHY milk from grass-fed cows? Cows that receive no growth hormones and no antibiotics and eat only green pasture and hay?
He made it sound like all milk is bad. Which is NOT true!
He went on to say that if you are going to give your children milk, you should give them low-fat milk because, while fat is not as bad as we thought it was, lots of saturated fat is not good for you.
Huh? He lost me. What is the basis for that statement?
Mothers around the world have been feeding babies and children milk — human milk as well as milk from cows, goats, and camels — for thousands of years. We have only recently — in the past few decades — seen a huge surge of obesity and diabetes.
Sure, it might be due to hormones in milk and meat but most likely it has a lot more to do with the sharp increase in other things we are now feeding our children for the first time in history: large amounts of refined grains, flours and sugar and high fructose corn syrup.
Weston Price studied many cultures all over the world that fed their children meat or fish and dairy almost exclusively (the Eskimos, many African tribes, people living in the Swiss Alps, Scottish fishermen, etc. etc. etc.).
They had no obesity, no diabetes. No degenerative diseases whatsoever.
You can read his entire book online here and see for yourself:
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.
Just look at the pictures and tell me those kids aren’t healthy. And what were they eating? Whole raw milk, butter, cheese. Meat, seafood. Whole grains and some vegetables and fruits. Some nuts and seeds.
These are people who got over 50% of their nutrition from fat, much of it saturated fat. And they had no degenerative disease.
Anyway, back to Pollan. He went on to say that humans are not meant to drink milk and that they can get the same nutrients from broccoli. He made some point about cows only drinking milk for 6 months — and then the go on to eat grass and get all their nutrients from grass.
Um, Michael? Did you forget something?
Humans are not cows. Cows have 6 stomachs. We have one.
They have a completely different digestive system than humans.
Here’s an interesting article about the human digestive system compared to carnivorous animals like dogs versus herbivorous animals like sheep:
Comparison Between the Digestive Tracts of a Carnivore, a Herbivore and Man
Just look at that chart on that page and tell me we should be eating mostly plants.
We are not herbivores.
And yet Michael Pollan’s advice to us is, “Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.”
Why? Based on WHAT?
Feeding babies broccoli instead of milk. Sheesh!
What do you say about this, Michael:
Mother’s milk provides a higher proportion of cholesterol than almost any other food. It also contains over 50% of its calories as fat, much of it saturated fat. Both cholesterol and saturated fat are essential for growth in babies and children, especially the development of the brain. Yet, the American Heart Association is now recommending a low-cholesterol, lowfat diet for children! Commercial formulas are low in saturated fats and soy formulas are devoid of cholesterol. A recent study linked lowfat diets with failure to thrive in children.
Somehow I can’t imagine myself rocking my baby to sleep with a broccoli floret instead of a bottle of milk.










I found your site because your post on aspic and gelee was referenced on a traditional foods group that I am on. I’ve read some of your past posts just now and agree wholeheartedly with you. I will visit often!
Thanks for visiting!
Still haven’t made any gelee but I am supposed to get my hands on some chicken feet tomorrow.
Organic dairy standards prohibit the use of antibiotics, although I agree with the larger point about seeking out specifically grass-fed milk. In general, dairy cows have a healthier diet than feed lot beef cattle, since producers want to keep them alive and producing for several years, which would be just about impossible on a a beef feedlot diet. I actively avoid CAFO organic dairy (e.g. Horizon / Auroa / “The Organic Cow”), but those animals are raised without antibiotics.
George - you are correct. I retracted the statement about antibiotics. Thanks for catching that.
This is amazing! It’s seems like everytime I look for something - kefir, raw milk, chlorine in drinking water, probiotics, Terresentials - up cheeslave pops.
I was just looking for a response by Michael Pollan’s to Sally Fallon’s open letter. And here you go again - with your insightful, interesting and entertaining commentary.
You rock!
LOL!
Awww shucks! Thanks!
I guess it’s because these things I’m interested in are so fringe (”crackpot” as DH calls it) — most people don’t write about them. Yet this is my passion and write I must! (I’m sure I will write a book about it eventually — just not sure what the topic will be yet.)
I didn’t see Sally Fallon’s open letter — link, please?
Oh and someone just sent me a link to a Sally Fallon interview — I’ll post it here:
http://www.wspd.com/cc-common/podcast.html
look for “Breakfast with Claudia” about halfway down the page on the right. February 10, 2008 is Claudia’s interview with Sally Fallon. There are 2 parts.
Part one:
http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/TOLEDO-OH/WSPD-AM/BREAKFAST%20WITH%20CLAUDIA-1ST%20HALF%20HOUR-2-9-2008.mp3?CPROG=PCAST&MARKET=TOLEDO-OH&NG_FORMAT=newstalk&SITE_ID=1258&STATION_ID=WSPD-AM&PCAST_AUTHOR=Claudia&PCAST_CAT=Info&PCAST_TITLE=Breakfast_with_Claudia
Part two:
http://a1135.g.akamai.net/f/1135/18227/1h/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/podcast/TOLEDO-OH/WSPD-AM/BREAKFAST%20WITH%20CLAUDIA-2ND%20HALF%20HOUR-2-9-2008.mp3?CPROG=PCAST&MARKET=TOLEDO-OH&NG_FORMAT=newstalk&SITE_ID=1258&STATION_ID=WSPD-AM&PCAST_AUTHOR=Claudia&PCAST_CAT=Info&PCAST_TITLE=Breakfast_with_Claudia
Ah - found it
http://www.westonaprice.org/journal/journal-v8n2su07.html
GOOD stuff! You gotta love Sally Fallon. She’s the best.
Thanks for the heads up.
You should rename your site Weston Price Slave. It seems all your knowledge comes from one source rather than critical thinking and independent research. If you did do your own research you would find a plethora of information recommending a mostly plant-based diet backed by evidenced based science and clinical trials and not funded by dairy and beef interests.
I’m sure if you addressed your query to Michael Pollan rather than just attacking him on your blog he would be able to respond with logic based on his research. But you probably won’t do that because you are only interested in answers that support your own views much like the WP people only publish poorly designed trials to support their views.
Try to keep an open mind for the sake of you and your son.
Hi, Christine,
Thanks for your comment.
I don’t have a son; I have a daughter. Pretty easy to deduce that since her name is the biggest word in the tag cloud.
I actually didn’t know what Sally Fallon or the WAPF thought of Michael Pollan’s position of “Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.” when I heard him on Every Day Food. If you read through the comments above, you will see that I did not know about Sally Fallon’s open letter to him.
I read “Omnivore’s Dilemma” and thought it was fantastic. So I was surprised when he came out with his new slogan promoting a plant-based diet. Really did not fit with what he wrote about in OD.
I’d love for you to share with me your “plethora of information recommending a mostly plant-based diet backed by evidenced based science and clinical trials and not funded by dairy and beef interests”.
I think the fact that I have been a vegetarian and am now not shows that I do have an open mind. I’m extremely open to different lifestyles.
Please, post some links. I’ll gladly read them. I used to be a vegetarian, you know. I am open to all kinds of diets. But what really moves me is (a) logic and (b) results.
PS: The Weston A. Price Founation is not funded by dairy and beef interests.
“The main sources of support for the Weston A. Price Foundation are the dues and contributions of its members. The Foundation receives no funding from any government agency or food processing corporation. Although many of our members are farmers, the Foundation has no ties with the meat or dairy industry, nor with any organization promoting these industries. The Foundation promotes the production of food by independent farmers and artisans, and not by industry.
For the Fiscal Year 2006, the Foundation had gross revenues of $839,000 of which $317,000 came from membership dues and $183,000 from donations. The balance of revenues was from conference fees, literature sales and miscellaneous other income.”
http://www.westonaprice.org/funding.html
PS: If you are going to defend him, defend his statement that lowfat milk is good for children.
Let’s see it.
Sorry, this was my first time on your site and I very briefly read your bio in which I thought you said you had a son.
I wasn’t defending Michael Pollan and I’m not going to go point by point with you over a book I haven’t read yet. I also don’t agree with everything he says. My suggestion was that you pose your questions to him yourself as I’m sure he’s perfectly capable of defending his position.
For someone who used to be vegetarian you love to attack the lifestyle. It wasn’t right for you so it must be bad for everyone else. I don’t see open-mindedness you claim in many or your blogs. I do see very single-mindedness.
You are entitled to your beliefs even though you have no professional credentials in health or nutrition. But then neither does Sally Fallon, the president of the Weston A. Price Foundation. “Sally Fallon credits herself as: an author, journalist, chef, nutrition researcher, homemaker, and community activist. She lists no formal training in any health or nutrition field.”
http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2007nl/may/planck.htm
I’m sure you’ve heard of Dean Ornish. His dietary recommendations have actually reversed heart disease and many insurance companies will pay for him program because of these proven results.
Read The China Study
Google any of these:
Dr. McDougall
Neal Barnard
John Robbins
The Cancer Project
Physicians for Responsible Medicine
American Institute For Cancer Research
That should be enough to get you started if you’re truly interested in getting your information from more than one source.
I’m not trying to convert you to vegetarianism. I just got to this site randomly and it was pretty obvious from many of your blog titles that you have an anti-veg bent. There are many different ways to be vegetarian. Perhaps your experiment with it in college didn’t leave you as informed as you think. If your diet works for you and your family great…doesn’t mean it’s right or wrong.
I don’t care for self-righteous vegetarians either. If people are genuinely interested I will share with them why I chose this lifestyle but I’m not out pushing an agenda. I think diet is a personal choice that is not for anyone else to judge. I also believe in making informed choices and weighing all the evidence. Sometimes, this is very difficult as there is a lot of junk science to weed through. I did not come to my choices lightly and I’m sure you did not either.
It’s your blog, you can do what you what, it’s just your tone toward vegans/vegetarians I have found offensive and divisive. Surely, there is a way to convey your beliefs in way that is truly more open-minded if you choose to do so. I’m sure there are many things we agree on (organics, anti-Monsanto, anti-factory-farming) and it serves no purpose to be so dismissive of someone else’s views even when they may be different from our own.
Christine,
Part of being a published author, especially a famous best-selling one, is learning to tolerate the bad reviews and criticism and blogs written about you.
As a published author myself, I have been through that. When my book was published, I got a lot of hate mail. I got a lot of fan mail, too.
It is what it is. I’m not too worried about Michael Pollan feeling attacked by me or anyone else who had read his books and disagreed with some of his points. That’s just part of the deal.
I am not even attacking him — just disagreeing with some of the things he has said. Nor am I attacking the vegetarian lifestyle. If you’ll notice, I have only blogged about 2 issues when it comes to vegetarianism:
1. The environment as it relates to vegetarians
2. Raising children as vegetarians
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being a vegetarian. However, I don’t think that being a vegetarian is the answer to saving the environment.
Nor do I think raising children as vegetarians is wise.
If you’re not raising a child, I don’t have any problem with vegetarians (and as I said, it’s nutritionally OK to raise a child vegetarian as long as they get plenty of milk and cream and butter and eggs — or seafood).
I am familiar with all the books and resources you have listed. I plan to read The China Study.
I read John Robbins’ book Diet for a New America. That is what convinced me to become a vegetarian for a few years in college.
After my few years of vegetarianism, I was very sick. I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis, and I had chronic fatigue, respiratory allergies, constant illnesses and sinus infections, etc. I went back to eating meat and went on an anti-candida diet (no sugar, no wheat) for a couple of years and I completely recovered my health.
If I had to stop eating meat, or if for some reason I didn’t feel comfortable with the idea of killing animals, I would still eat eggs and dairy products. And I would probably always eat fish. I don’t understand why there is anything wrong with drinking milk or eating butter from a cow who lives a good life on pasture. Or eggs from a chicken on pasture. Nor do I have a problem with eating fish.
Ann Marie